Beyond Faith



Did Job say even if he slays me "yet I will wait for Him" in assured anticipatory hope? Job 13:15. This would then tie in with I know my redeemer liveth and in the last day ( or end) he will stand upon the earth, and when my flesh is destroyed yet in my flesh (not Rotherham's out of my flesh) I will see God. Job 19:25-26 and many bodies of the saints ..... arose and came out ... and appeared unto many.. Matthew 27:50-54



Job 13:15Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I will maintain mine own ways before him.

You are asking for an interpretation. I will give you some facts but you will have to make your own interpretation after I give mine. The form of the verb to hope or trust in Job 13 15 is 'eyachal used in this form 3 other times in OT.

Ps 71:44 But I will hope continually, and will yet praise thee more and more.
Job 6:11 What is my strength, that I have hope? and what is mine end, that I should prolong my life?

Job 14:14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come. (wait) The reason he is willing to "wait" is explained below. This, as the other statements, is not a statement of faith or trust.

This word is used often in the OT and translated wait, hope, and tarry. The
Strongs number for it is 3176.

My interpretation of the passages will be different than what your questions imply .
This statement and the statement in Job 19:25,26 are not statements of faith.

25For I know that my redeemer lives, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: 26And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh I shall see God:

Chew on that for a moment while I get ready to tell you they are BEYOND FAITH. I think that "wait" rather than trust or hope is more proper in Job 13:15. Job is not saying "that even if He kills me I will trust in His ultimate salvation."

The complaint of Job is that he is a man of integrity and is suffering unjustly. He is demanding of God an answer for this injustice. Ultimately he will find out there are some things he does not know but at this point he knows he is not a sinner and does not deserve punishment from God and his calamities are too extensive not to have the Hand of God behind them. He does not "believe" this, he "knows" it. It has nothing to do with faith.

In his conviction of his integrity he has demanded an audience with God. He has said if my enemy (God) had written a book I could show Him where He is wrong. Thus he says here: "Even if he kills me I will wait for Him and maintain my ways before Him." This is not faith. It is beyond faith.

Job 31:35 Oh that one would hear me! behold, my desire is, that the Almighty would answer me, and that my adversary had written a book. 36 Surely I would take it upon my shoulder, and bind it as a crown to me. 37 I would declare to him the number of my steps; as a prince would I go near unto him.

The passage in Job 19:23, 24 is in a similar context.

23Oh that my words were now written! oh that they were printed in a book! 24That they were graven with an iron pen and lead in the rock for ever!

There, lest he forget his arguments, he wishes his own words were printed in a book and engraved in lead so that the truth of them might be preserved and be presented before God "when his appointed time comes" and Job does not believe that God will be able to answer his arguments. It is Beyond faith. He KNOWS he will see Him and have his chance.

He Knows that His redeemer lives and he will see him some day face to face and then God will have to give, He will be required to give, to Job the answer to the nature and contradictions of injustice. Job is not making a statement of faith. It is beyond faith. He says I know that He lives and that in my flesh I will see God and then my words will have to be answered (or He is not God.)

So much for the facts and the interpretation. Now go make your own.


PS Oh yes Mt 27:50 to 54 is anticipatory activity among the dead because Dan 12:1-3 speaks about the first coming of Jesus and the ressurection of many as a result of His "standing up."

Fred P Miller

Dear Fred P Miller

Thanks again - you're a champion.
This is the type of thing I want to bring out in the correspondence course.
That is why I asked you about Job when you were off line due to computer problems.:-

In Him